Shalom! My name is Adam Pastor

Welcome to ADONI MESSIAH which means
"My Lord Messiah" -
a fitting epithet to who Jesus (or Yeshua) is!

Here, I attempt to present the Apostolic Truths according to the Scriptures, that there is
One GOD, the Father, namely, YAHWEH,
and One Lord, GOD's only begotten Son,
Yeshua the Messiah.

And that one day YAHWEH will send His Son back to Earth to inaugurate the Everlasting Kingdom of GOD



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Friday, June 30, 2017

Did the Christ pre-exist? Examining the Gospel of John (Chapters 1-6)





Did the Christ pre-exist? Examining the Gospel of John (Chapters 1-6)

MAY 26, 2017


Please refer to this post for an introduction:

John 1:1 – That which was from the beginning,

Contrasting John’s own interpretation with his gospel record: 1 John 1

The Word of Life

1Jn 1:1  That which was from the beginning,
versus
John 1:1  In the beginning was the Word,
1 John 1:1  concerning the Word of life
  • In the word of God is eternal life.
  • We know God by his word.
  • We know the will of God through his words.

Word became flesh

1 John 1:1  that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we beheld, and our hands handled,
versus
John 1:14  And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.
In Hindu religion – gods do incarnate, but in Christianity the word of God was made flesh.
God causes this to happen in that he created a son via Mary thereby fulfilling Moses’ prophecy ‘God will raise up a prophet like me’

The Word was with God / which was with the Father

1 John 1:2   which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
versus
John 1:1  and the Word was with God
Eternal life was with the Father and has been manifested through Jesus the son of man. ...
A common misunderstanding of this verse is ‘God was with God’ or ‘One God was with another God’ or ‘An angel was with God’
[Rather God's word in John 1:1-3 is being personified in similar fashion as when Wisdom in the book of Proverbs was personified] as a woman. Wisdom was with God and an integrated part of God, but wisdom is not a Goddess!
Translation/Interpretation possibilities:
which was with the Father” / “In the beginning was the word, it was with God”

In ‘it’ was life (Tyndale's Translation has ‘it’)


[Incidentally, most of the English Bibles before the KJV of 1611 translated
John 1:3-4 using '
it' not 'him' See this link for more info]
1 John 1:2  and the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare unto you the life, the eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;
versus
John 1:4  In it was life; And the life was the light of men;
John in his epistles gives a simple interpretation of his gospel record. The introductions match.
God’s light was manifest in the man Jesus!
The plan of salvation was such that God’s word and light was to be fulfilled/satisfied through a man. God caused a man to fulfil this thereby by proving that the man who God created can indeed be good. In the man Jesus was the perfect will of God manifested. What Jesus demonstrated in his life was how men ought to live a life according to God’s word, light and love.

Purpose

1 John 1:3  that which we have seen and heard declare we unto you also, that ye also may have fellowship with us: yea, and our fellowship is with the Fatherand with his Son Jesus Christ:
1 John 1:4  and these things we write, that our joy may be fulfilled.
Fellowship is with two distinct beings: The Father AND the son (the son who has been recently manifested.)
One is a eternal being – Elohim Yahweh; the other his son was his word that was made flesh, [resulting in a human being viz. Jesus the Messiah; who has now attained to] eternal life.

The word was God

What God intends is reflected through his word and therefore the word is as God is or the ‘word was God’.
So also it follows that light was with God and light was God.
If
“God is light” 1 John 1:5 
then
“Light is God”
But, God is literally not the light we see of a tube light or the Sun’s rays. So, these have to be understood in their respective spiritual contexts.
‘what God was, the word was‘ – NEB translation
‘what God was, the word was‘ NEB translation easily explains the plan and the purpose of God which was manifested in human flesh – i.e. What God wanted – the son fulfilled, i.e. The will of God was manifest in the face of Jesus.
The widely accepted decision not to make any distinction between articulated
‘HO THEOS’ and unarticulated ‘THEOS’ in John 1:1 is unfortunate because it is biased.

Summary

John does not introduce Jesus as a ... a spirit being or a 2nd person of the trinity or as a angel! (So Jesus did not literally preexist). Rather John teaches us that the logos of God was made flesh resultling in Jesus Christ (John 1:14-17).
...

    John 1:18 – which is in the bosom of the Father,

    John 1:18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
    This if interpreted spiritually means that Jesus was intimate with the Father. Now no one has seen God but Moses is recorded to have seen and spoken to God – face to face.
    On literal reading we get:
    a. No one has seen God
    b. Moses saw God
    c. Therefore, Statement A is false
    But if we understand the passage spiritually, and examine the text in detail – an angel spoke to Moses who bore the name of God and therefore statements A and B are both be true, that Moses spoke to God through the angel.
    [Exodus 3:2, Acts 7:30]
    ...

      John 1:30 – for he was before me

      John 1:30  This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is become before me: for he was before me.
      Spiritual reading: Jesus was before John in importance and significance! What John intended to convey was:
      John 1:34  And I have seen, and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.
      • John 1:30 – cometh a man
      • John 1:34 – Son of God
      Hence Jesus takes precedence over John!

      John 2:19 – Destroy this temple

      John 2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
      Jesus did not explain to his audience that he was speaking of his body! This message was only clear to his ‘intended’ audience after the resurrection!
      A literal reading would lead one to think that he is referring to the temple that Herod had restored! A spiritual reading would lead to new understanding that would be clear [in the writing of the Apostles.
      See also Did Jesus Raise Himself From the Dead?

      John 3:4 – Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?

      John 3:4  Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?
      A literal reading of Jesus’ saying would lead to the obvious conclusion of Nicodemus.
      A spiritual reading requires explanation and leads one to new understandings of baptism by water and spirit.
      The literal reading is impossible – so a spiritual reading is both required and intended! A literal reading would cause people to claim how their moms swallowed them and ejected them out again through faith.

      John 3:13 – But he that descended out of heaven

      John 3:13  And no man hath ascended into heavenbut he that descended out of heaveneven the Son of man, which is in heaven.

      Taking this verse literally:
      a. Jesus is claiming he has already ascended to heaven but he was on earth
      b.  he ‘descended out of heaven’ – Again for Nicodemus this is an impossible statement because Jesus was a man born to Mary. Is there then a spiritual significance?
      c. ’which is in heaven’ – he is presently in heaven  – Again for Nicodemus this is an impossible statement because Jesus was before him.
      Based on the spiritual interpretation ‘born again’ by Jesus himself, we then look at the  spiritual message in Jesus’ statement:
      ...
      A literal reading would lead one to a mystical conclusion of Jesus the divine who is at two places at once and that defeats the purpose of him being human!
      ‘he came forth from God’ i.e. he was ‘raised up’ by God to be a prophet. If that is the case then that does put Jesus in the category of Jeremiah whom God foreknew before his birth, but Jesus is given more significance because he exceeds Jeremiah in purpose.
      ‘descended out of heaven’ – reading very literally – he has just jumped down from heaven, so even a very literal reading renders it impossible! ... A spiritual reading leads to the fact that his origin is from heaven in terms of purpose. ...
      Spiritual message for us:
      Col 3:2  Set your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are upon the earth.
      ‘which is in heaven’ i.e. Jesus was always heaven focused and we also ought to be Christ focused. ...

      For more information regarding John 3:13 please see this link.
      ...

      John 3:31  – He that cometh from above

      John 3:31  He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is of the earth, and of the earth he speaketh: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
      Literal reading: Jesus came from above and incarnated as human!
      Spiritual reading: God from his abode in heaven caused a man to be born to declare him. Jesus' unique birth is emphasised!
      The miraculous birth of the son of God is undermined by the trinity explanation of a
      'God the Son'.
      The fact that Jesus is son of God is very significant! Unfortunately the Nicean framework re-reads ‘son of God’ as ‘God the son’ which causes confusion.
      Now this son is very significant because the Father indeed loves this son above all else:
      John 3:35  The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
      Important to note that it is the Father who GIVES and the son receives because the son does not of his own possess anything!
      Spiritually, the very ‘purpose of God’ incarnated rather than God himself incarnated. Since there is only one God and there are two persons (Father and son) – trinity is an incorrect solution. ...
      Jesus being from above is significant in that he was chosen by God [Using the Jewish idiom: by heaven] thereby authorising Jesus to say and to do the things that he did. Jesus was heaven focused – for that was his very purpose of birth.
      John 4:34  Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to accomplish his work.
      So, God had specially chosen Jesus as he had chosen Moses earlier; major difference being that Jesus of Nazareth was God's very own begotten son!
      Jesus was God-sent i.e. God ordained:
      John 8:28 Jesus therefore said, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myselfbut as the Father taught me, I speak these things.
      John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me; he hath not left me alone; for I do always the things that are pleasing to him.
      First he says: “I do nothing of myself”
      Next he says “but as the Father taught me”
      Hence Jesus gives the full glory to God but at the same time showing how he is from God/heaven, i.e he spoke those words because he had received it from heaven i.e. from God.

      Contrasting heaven and earth – Spiritual significance:

      Earthly
      Col 3:5  Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, the which is idolatry;
      Heavenly
      Col 3:12 Put on therefore, as God’s elect, holy and beloved, a heart of compassion, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering;
      We are also to seek the things that are above:
      Col 3:1 If then ye were raised together with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God.
      Col 3:2 Set your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are upon the earth.
      Speaking of Jesus as being "coming down, from, of heaven" – is significant of his holy birth and that he lived a holy life and was authorised by heaven i.e.
      ‘God-sent’.
      Even Jesus’ disciples were not of this world because God’s word transforms them and in turn they were sent of God:
      Joh 17:14  I have given them your word, and the world has hated thebecause they are not of the worldjust as I am not of the world.

      Was Jesus conscious of
      pre-existence?

      Joh 8:28 “but as the Father taught me”
      Did Jesus receive this teaching from the Father in heaven? If so then when he came down to earth, he had to remember his life in heaven. If that is the case he has memories of his past life which is typical of Buddhism’s re-incarnation where one remembers events from their past life. But Jesus’ language is spiritual rather than literal.
      Jesus gets his teachings by reading the Torah and Prophets e.g. the young Jesus at 12 asking questions. We also find him growing in wisdom [Luke 2:52], which contradicts to having eternal knowledge trapped in a baby!
      Jesus gets his teachings and assurance from his Father ... We also see that Jesus was diligent in prayer and therefore in direct communication with his Father. His Father would have made it clear to his Son regarding his identity as the Messiah and his purpose in the will of God.

      John 4:14  – Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come all the way hither to draw.

      John 4:14  but whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall become in him a well of water springing up unto eternal life.
      Literal reading: “Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come all the way hither to draw.”
      Spiritual reading: The words he spoke if drunk leads one to eternal life. Water has life, but his words were ‘spirit and truth’ that leads to eternal life.

      ...

      John 5:43 – I am come in my Father’s name,

      John 5:43  I am come in my Father’s name,
      John 10:25  the works that I do in my Father’s name, these bear witness of me.
      ‘Father’s name’ means he was authorised by God. This is common in daily life when you  represent someone, an entity or a corporation. A mere display of a visiting card makes you significant if the company you work is a big corporation.
      Here is an example of an angel bearing God’s name and its implications:
      Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. Beware of him, and obey his voiceprovoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressionsfor my name is in him. But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries. For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off. (Exodus 23:20-23 KJV)
      • I send an ANGEL before thee
      • Obey his voice
      • He will not pardon your transgressions
      • ‘for my NAME is in him’ — So God designates his Angel to do his bidding.
      Now this Angel though he bears the name of God is still an angel of God and worships his God. In the same way even though Jesus bore the Father’s name, Jesus still worships his God!

      [Now compare John 5:43 with Psalm 118:26, Matthew 21:9, 23:39, Mark 11:9-10,
      Luke 19:38, John 12:13]
      John 6:29 – whom he hath sent.
      John 6:29  Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
      Harmonising Jesus’ phrase with the Law and the prophets
      A typical trinitarian literal reading: Jesus was in heaven and God "sent him down”
      Spiritual reading: Contrast with Moses how Moses was God-sent
      Act 7:35  This Moses whom they refused, saying, Who made thee a ruler and a judge? him hath God sent to be both a ruler and a deliverer with the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush.
      In the parable the servants and Jesus are ‘sent’ by God
      Luke 20:11  And he SENT yet another servant: and him also they beat, and handled him shamefully, and sent him away empty.
      Luke 20:13  And the lord of the vineyard said, What shall I do? I will SEND my beloved son: it may be they will reverence him. 
       [Also John the Baptist was a man sent from God. John 1:6 He neither preexisted or was sent from heaven! So the same applies to Jesus!]



      God shall raise up a prophet

      Deu 18:15  The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
      The Torah explicitly denies the [deity] of the coming Messiah. The Messiah would be great in that he would be like Moses He would be a significant and greater prophet but concerning his nature ‘of thy brethren’ i.e. 100% human – ‘Jew’.
      As Moses was sent of God, so Jesus was sent of God! So a spiritual reading in the contexts of scriptures (OT) yields the meaning of ‘God-sent’ as:
      Jer 35:15  I have sent also unto you all my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them, saying, Return ye now every man from his evil way, and amend your doings, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me.
      Luke 11:49  Therefore also said the wisdom of GodI will send unto them prophets and apostles; and some of them they shall kill and persecute;
      • Jesus was ‘raised up’ – birth, come into existence
      • Jesus was sent – Authorised by God
      • Jesus came down from heaven – He was God’s plan or will manifested
      • He came in his Father’s name – One sent of God, a Mediator for God
      Peter explains this prophecy thus:
      Act 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Servant, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities.
      The disciples were sent by Jesus as the Father had sent Jesus:
      Joh 13:20  Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever receives the one I send receives me, and whoever receives me receives the one who sent me.”

      John 17:18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

      John 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.

      ...

      John 6:33  – Bread of God is that which cometh down out of heaven

      John 6:33  For the bread of God is that which cometh down out of heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
      John 6:38  For I am come down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
      Now the phrase ‘cometh down out of heaven’ is paralleled with ‘He gave them bread out of heaven to eat.’
      Manna rained from heaven, but Jesus says he is the true bread that came down from heaven.
      Literal reading again leads to the trinitarian incarnation of sorts.
      Spiritual reading:
      Jesus is bread, but Jesus is not literally bread!
      They asked:
      John 6:42  And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how doth he now say, I am come down out of heaven?
      This is the very question we are also seeking answers to!
      Jesus replies

      1.

      John 6:44  No man can come to me, except the Father which sent me draw him: and I will raise him up in the last day.
      Well… As usual Jesus answers a question in his wisdom, in a proverbial fashion. [e.g. Matthew 13:10-17] ...
      He is now teaching the doctrine of resurrection: ‘I will raise him up in the last day’
      So, how is resurrection relevant to him coming down from heaven?
      Also, ‘No man can come to me, except the Father which sent me draw him’
      ‘I am come down out of heaven’ just means God ‘sent him’ as seen in previous sections. Since Jesus is authorised by God i.e. by heaven; he in turn is given such powers so that he can give life.

      2.

      John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall all be taught of God.Every one that hath heard from the Father, and hath learned, cometh unto me.
      Wow: “Every one that hath heard from the Father, and hath learned” – How so?
      [Compare: Isaiah 54:13]
      So, people who have been taught by the Father and have learned the truth, will be able to come to Jesus. i.e. people would already have knowledge to be able to come to Jesus.
      Spiritual reading: One could be taught by God through the scriptures, so Jesus is alluding that if one understood the scriptures (i.e. OT writings), they would be able to recognise the Messiah.
      In contrast:
      John 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he sent, him ye believe not.
      That is, they who are unwilling to heed to the voice of scriptures which was the voice of God given through the prophets; would not come to Jesus!

      3.

      John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Fathersave he which is from Godhe hath seen the Father.
      Spiritually reading the passage based on verse 45, Jesus is not really claiming exclusive sighting of the Father:

      Exodus 33:11

      Yahweh spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend.
      Jesus is speaking of his spiritual state of being with the the Father at all times. ... Jesus therefore sees the Father always spiritually. ...

      4.

      John 6:47  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth hath eternal life.
      John 6:49  Your fathers did eat the manna in the wilderness, and they died.
      John 6:50  This is the bread which cometh down out of heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
      John 6:51  I am the living bread which came down out of heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: yea and the bread which I will give is my flesh, for the life of the world.
      Again there is an emphasis on the doctrine of eternal life.
      Again ‘I will give is my flesh’ is not intended to be taken literally.
      “This is the bread which cometh down out of heaven” – that he was provided by God i.e. by heaven
      John 6:57  As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Fatherso he that eateth me, he also shall live because of me.
      Now Jesus explains the meaning of his statements:
      • ‘Father sent me’ – appointed by God
      • ‘ I live because of the Father’ – Jesus has no life of his own but feeds of the Father. How so? He seeks to do the will of his Father and relies on his Father.
      • ‘he that eateth me, he also shall live because of me’ – Since Jesus feeds of the Father for his sustenance we also can feed of Jesus to get our sustenance. Feeding of Jesus is same as feeding of the Father, because all that means is: that Jesus totally depended on his Father and did his will.

      5.

      John 6:58  This is the bread which came down out of heaven:
      The goal for this teaching is that Jesus is being provided to the Jews by God (who is in heaven). Jesus is God’s presentation to the people. Eating Jesus literally does not make sense and no one actually cooked Jesus. This is purely spiritual: That is to rely on God like Jesus relied on his God for sustenance and to feed of the word of God!
      (Though the Catholic faith believes that the wafer is the body of Jesus and to be a cannibal was required by the Lord. Classic pit fall with literal reading)
      “that a man may eat thereof, and not die.” – Literal reading leads one to think if they chop a pound of Jesus’ flesh and eat of it they will never die; as is the  theme of many fantasy stories. A spiritual reading leads one to feed on his ‘words’ and believe that he was God-sent!
      Jesus got his sustenance by living of the Father, so we also get our sustenance by living of Jesus i.e. living like Jesus. Jesus’ life was pleasing to the Father and therefore he is made a template for men to follow.
      John 6:57  As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father; so he that eateth me, he also shall live because of me.

      6.

      John 6:56  He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood abideth in me, and I in him.
      The act is spiritual and not literal, that is Jesus’ body is life in that we become one with Jesus by consuming him or accepting him in our lives, because he is
      God-sent.
      How can Jesus live in us? – By doing what Jesus taught us to do.
      How do we live in Jesus? – Because God designated Jesus as the saviour and he is the perfect man, we can base our lives upon his life.
      Why do we live in Jesus? – Because he was heaven-sent or from heaven!

      7.

      Through Jesus is proclaimed salvation:
      he shall live for ever: yea and the bread which I will give is my flesh, for the life of the world. John 6:51 
      So,
      ‘I am the living bread which came down out of heaven’ – implies that he is
      God-sent or God-ordained i.e Ordained from heaven! Jesus has his origin from heaven by plan and purpose (not as a spirit being that incarnated as flesh).
      Jesus' sacrifice – Not the torture or brutal murder but his life of dedication which included his brutal murder for the sake of the truth. That is: an appeal to sinful humanity to change their ways before destruction should sweep them away.
      The Father is not willing that the wicked should perish. The Father appeals through his son that mankind ought to repent, in light of what Jesus did, even at the cost of his death. Jesus died for our sins. It is on the basis of Jesus' life of consecration and love that forgiveness of sins has come about
      (not account of a divine, immortal? being dying).

      8.

      “the words that I have spoken unto you are spirit, and are life.” John 6:63 
      We eat Jesus’ words – accept and follow his words in faith and hope to receive eternal life. The words of Jesus are spirit and life. They are God’s words, which Jesus, God's representative, had spoken to us.
      ‘I am come down out of heaven’ – then means that:
      • He was God-sent/God-authorised
      • Jesus came down in the context of the bread of life and he himself sustains himself by the word of his Father and puts his trust in his Father.
      • Jesus is the bread of life that originates from God, from heaven. Jesus was not born by the will of man but by the will of God. Therefore Jesus is specifically chosen.
      • Jesus’ life and example then becomes the template for man to follow to attain to eternal life – we feed of Jesus like Jesus feeds of the Father. Jesus is the word of God made flesh and therefore in Jesus is the full will of God fulfilled.

      John 6:62 – Where he was before

      John 6:62  What then if ye should behold the Son of man ascending where he was before?
      Literal reading: He literally was a spirit and became a baby and grew up conscious of his previous avatar!
      Spiritual reading: 
      Jesus origin was from heaven - the fact that he literally was the son of God without a human father clearly shows his origin was from above i.e. by God. Jesus' whole mission was with the Father from the beginning.
      This is more easily understand in the context of Paul’s letter to the Ephesians:
      Eph 1:3  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
      Eph 1:4  even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love
      • The church are blessed in the heavenly places – Not literally transported to heaven
      • Those of the church were loved and chosen by God even before the creation – How so? Literally or spiritually? Did one pre-exist in heaven?? Rather:
      Eph 1:5 having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
      Jesus and the church were in the mind of God even before the creation – ‘according to the good pleasure of his will’.
      Again,
      Eph 1:10 unto a dispensation of the fulness of the times, to sum up all things in Christ, the things in the heavens, and the things upon the earth; in him, I say,
      Eph 1:11 in whom also we were made a heritage, having been foreordained according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his will;
      Both the Christ and the church have been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will.
      Jesus' mission was God’s plan as much as Jeremiah' mission was God’s plan:
      Jer 1:5  Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee; I have appointed thee a prophet unto the nations.
      Jeremiah' mission therefore is of divine origin but yet he was born of natural conception, while Jesus was called and chosen of a supernatural conception.
      Yet just as Jeremiah
      did not literally preexist the same applies to Jesus!
      Spiritual reading John 6 leads one to believe:
      Joh 6:69  And we have believed and know that thou art the Holy One of God.
      I.e. he was the ‘holy one’ conceived of God hence from heaven.

      For more information regarding John 6:62 please see this link.

       Understanding the ‘From heaven’ phrase:

      Mark 11:30  The baptism of John—was it from heaven, or from men? Answer me.”
      Here it is obvious the phrase ‘from heaven’ means authorised or originated from God. Likewise Jesus as the son of God originates from heaven in the sense that he was God’s plan/word made flesh.
      When we believe in Jesus we actually believe on the one who sent Jesus:
      John 12:44   Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.
      Rejecting Jesus is rejecting God, because Jesus only conveyed God’s words to the Jews:
      Compare:
      1Sa 8:7  And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
      Jesus witnesses of himself
      John 5:30  I can of mine own self do nothing:
      Jesus was conveying God’s words. But Jesus on his own can do nothing because he was a mere mortal. But in Jesus we see how God loves and rewards those who please him with their holy lives.
      John 5:30  because I seek not mine own willbut the will of the Father which hath sent me.
      Jesus’ goal was not to do his will but his Father’s will.


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      CONCLUSION

      The language of John's gospel is like the language of Jesus; their language is the language of proverbial ‘in figures of speech’ - spiritual metaphors;
      so it is a spiritual effort to discern what Jesus meant by what he said, in the manner that John recorded Jesus' words:
      John 16:25  I have said these things to you in figures of speech. The hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figures of speech but will tell you plainly about the Father.
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